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• 1. Darraghmac  |  May 12th, 2008 at 11:18 am

  If players staying ont he pitch incorrectly is outside of your remit, yet you can call a result differently based on him staying on, it’s not a very good system, now, is it?

  Right Result- ten man united draw and lose the league.

  

• 2. poskitt  |  May 12th, 2008 at 11:21 am

  If the right result was a ten man united draw, then United wouldn’t have lost the league dumbass, as we drew with Bolton.

• 3. turksih  |  May 12th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

  surely the correct decision would of been the award of a penalty to wigan for rio’s handball… what happens after that is in the lap of the gods..

• 4. steve  |  May 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

  i have been following this site and posted the odd comment throughout the course of the season, some i agree with others not!!

  but how in the name right result can calculate a 3-0 win to United, when as mentioned Wigan should have had a penalty BEFORE United, and Scholes should have been sent off is beyond me!!

  Steve Bennett blottled it big time yesterday, as have Right Result with this decision!!!!

• 5. Eric_The_King  |  May 12th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

  I’m a red and even I agree Scholes should have gone. Therefore, the right result is hard to call but I’d have put it a lot closer than 3-0 to Utd.

• 6. thepiedpiper (Team - ebbsfleet)  |  May 12th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

  I have followed this site with interest all year and up until today have not registered (for some bizarre reason!) yet after seeing this article I felt that I needed to comment.

  You see, this “right result” is, quite simply, baffling.

  I thought this site was supposed to be impartial but over this season I have seen the odd sign that it is clearly not.

  I don’t understand the point of this site. This “right result” is so far from what even the most ardent Man U fan could possibly claim that I think it truly diminishes the integrity of what you set out to do.

  Disappointed.

• 7. stevebennett (Team - Man Utd)  |  May 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

  The right result should be 3-0 but my stupid assistant ref let me down. If only UEFA would let me ref the Champions League Final. Up the reds long live Fergie i’m a red etc………………………

• 8. TL  |  May 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

  Is there any doubt after this “Right Result” that this site is biased beyond comprehension? From the moment it neglected 3 blatant fouls during the MAN v ARS game early in the season, I was suspicious, but while you can try to paint me as biased for the Gunners, this latest travesty is too much to bear, even for most Reds fans.

• 9. Adam  |  May 12th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

  Anytime Man United gets the right result, you ABU moron cry. Face it, we don’t get the breaks anymore than any other team.

• 10. Wizbit (Team - Everton)  |  May 12th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

  I think that the penalty shout against Ferdinand would have been harsh if given.

  …and as for the Right Result being biased towards Man Utd. - I haven’t noticed it! I admit I think they do get the rub of the green sometimes because of who they are, but I don’t think they have had many incorrect major decisions going their way.

• 11. The Right Result  |  May 12th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

  The Right Result panel review highlighted incidents each week. In some, having looked at them closely on several occasions, there can be enough reasonable doubt which makes it unfair to reverse a referee’s decision.

• 12. edo  |  May 12th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

  The RR,hmmmmm, well, I think you got it close, no way was it a pnalty on Ferdinand, yes he moved his arm and body toward the ball, but it hit him on the edge of the sholder, no peno, Scholes a second yellow??, give me a break, if that is a yellow then Brown should have been sent of for an unprovoked attack on Vidic, so , maybe Wigan should of had a penalty, then scholes goes, then Brown goes,united dont get the second peno as scholes is of,so , lets say the score is 1-1, Giggs clearly gets the winner, both teams end up with ten men, united 2-1 up, I think my money would be on united to score more in that position than Wigan,end result, United win

• 13. billy  |  May 12th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

  Agreed,united win is correct and scholes didn’t deserve second yellow for that tackle really. Common sense prevailed. Can right result factor in sendings off in future perhaps? By the way, loved that first comment about united drawing meaning they would have won it - what a doughnut!

• 14. Paul  |  May 13th, 2008 at 12:30 am

  The Ferdinand handball was a deffinate penality and the RR should be 3-1, how you can say otherwise i don’t know, also can you please review Chris Riggotts disallowed goal in the Middlesbrough - Man City game, which was clearly onside. regardless of weather it would have made any differance, it was still clearly the wrong decision.

• 15. tom Kelly  |  May 13th, 2008 at 9:35 am

  I`m disappointed in the failure to acknowledge the Wigan penalty claim for the Rio handball. It reveals a bias that I`d hoped wasn`t there. As an everton fan I`d like to cite the credibility of the panel but this indicates a pro-United (ergo anti-Liverpool) bias which undermines my position.

• 16. Billy  |  May 13th, 2008 at 9:45 am

  Tom, the site does acknowledge that they looked at it in a comment above, but felt there was reasonable doubt there so it was unfair to reverse the ref’s decision. I think what you’re saying is a bit much really - they took a look, saw reasonable doubt, and decided to let things stand as a result of that. As for pro-United bias, I haven’t seen anything like that all season and I check the site out every monday morning to see who’s where etc. Everton have been hard-done-by for sure and that’s reflected, but there’s no anti-Liverpool bias here at all. Unless you wanted them to overlook some of the stuff Carragher got away with at the start of the season!!! If you click on the teams in the table you get to see the decisions from the whole season - you might want to check it out.

• 17. Paul  |  May 13th, 2008 at 11:43 am

  Ferdinand deflects a goal bound effort with his upper arm after clearly making a movement towards the ball.

  where is the reasonable doubt?

• 18. Wayne  |  May 13th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

  The situation with Rio(the so called “handball”) was clearly NOT a penalty!!!You have to either blind or stupid to say otherwise!

• 19. DaColby  |  May 13th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

  what about scholes not getting a 2nd yellow and ferdinand’s disallowed penalty. 1-1 should have been the result as the first penalty for utd was a farce

• 20. pam  |  May 13th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

  Are you man united fans?? What about the scholes decision which CLEARLY was another yellow, and the disallowed penalty for wigan. your table clearly doesnt show anything

• 21. Tim  |  May 15th, 2008 at 1:03 am

  I’m a United fan and I wouldn’t have been at all surprised if the Rio “handball” was given, but I don’t think that Scholes should have gone - the offence that he was booked for looked dodgy to me. We all know Scholes can’t tackle (and has been told not to bother by the manager), but if you watch the replay, he plays the ball before Palacios goes to ground, and the Wigan player made the most of it just as he did later on. If anything he should have been booked for the second incident but not the first.

  Right result - Wigan 1-2 Man Utd

  I like the fact that some of the people on here still think that even if the refs had got all the decisions right in all the matches all season, United would have lost the title because they believe this game should have been a draw.

  Look at the contentious decisions that went the way of Chelsea - Drogba’s offside goal against Arsenal (-2 points) and the penalty that shouldn’t have been at Anfield (-1 point) etc. If the refs got everything right, United would have won the league long before this game even kicked off.

• 22. hgn007 (Team - Manchester United)  |  May 15th, 2008 at 6:02 am

  The Yellow card for Paul Scholes looked unjust to me and he was right in not awarding him with a second yellow for a tackle that got the ball…

  And the Bramble foul on Scholes-Penalty…
  Ronaldo 32 BPL goals…
  United 3-0

• 23. Abe  |  May 15th, 2008 at 10:33 am

  I must say, as a United fan, Paul Scholes did deserve a second booking. but as said before me, he did not deserve the booking he actually got so he did not deserve a red card. I further don’t think the Rio incident was a handball, i saw there are quite a few people that believe otherwise, but the TV replays were completely inconclusive on the matter a surely did not provide any proof it was a handball! of course there was a penalty on scholes that was not given in the second half and a few moments later, there was a third penalty claim when boyce deflected Rooney’s ball with his hand and Steve Bennet decided in was Rooney’s handball!!

• 24. steve  |  May 15th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

  I am not a united fan, in fact i was hoping for a wigan win on the weekend, but i think if you look at all the key decisions, scholes should have walked, we have seen second yellows and red cards for alot less this season, wigan could have been awarded a pen, again we have seen sorter ones given this season. The foul on scholes was a pen, but if he had been sent of would someone else has been there… i doubt it.

  So all in all i say a fair result would have been 2-1 win for united, but it doesnt really matter, while it hurts to say it i think man utd deserved to win it over the whole of the season.

• 25. Steve  |  May 16th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

  1st decision I read (3-0 to MU) & its rubbish. Wigan should have had a pen at 0-0, Scholes shoul.d have been sent off etc. Last time I bother with this rubbish site.

• 26. Veronica  |  May 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

  First and foremost; United fan. Secondly; female. However, I’m as objective as you can get and I wont hesitate to recognize my own traces of bias.

  That being said: no handball for Rio. Of all the replays I have seen, I am quite positive it hit him off the shoulder. First booking and card for Scholes was ridiculous. Second though, was worthy of a yellow. But if he had not received the first yellow, and had received a card for his second foul, he still wouldn’t have walked. (You could tell Scholes had no malicious intent anyway; he’s a genuine player and I’m glad Bennett had enough sense to recognize the nature of the foul). Penalty given to Rooney was questionable, in all honesty, it didn’t really look like a penalty worthy foul. Again though, foul in box = penalty. Foul on Schole’s should have been penalty. Handball in box should have been penalty to United. Brown running in Vidic was very WTF. Booking for sure. End result; 3-0 (the two disallowed penalties as well as Ryan’s goal).

• 27. Trev  |  May 16th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

  whatever

• 28. ref  |  May 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

  Because its the end of the season.. why dont you lot get yerself down to a referees course.

  Then next season you can go out and ref the little U11s and see if you get everything correct!!

• 29. Shiny Dave  |  May 19th, 2008 at 8:38 am

  This match perfectly sums up the limitations of Right Result. You can’t account fairly for players who should have been red-carded, and I don’t think it’s possible. Ignoring it may well be the simplest option; all you can really do with this approach is to take individual goals that shouldn’t have been, or vice versa, and apply those ceteris paribus, or ‘all other things being equal’. That’s not a realistic assumption, save for maybe the 93rd minute, but it’s the best we have.

  What the table does show is how many critical decisions go roughly the way of one particular team. In this case, there’s more than a hint that Chelsea and Liverpool have benefitted, while Everton have suffered. Whether the central conclusion (Everton should be in the Champions League, Liverpool should be in the UEFA Cup) can be accepted is more difficult, and one’s opinion on whether it can probably depends upon one’s allegiance. Speaking as a neutral, it seems like a stretch to accept it, but not a great one.

• 30. JC  |  May 19th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

  Gotta say that this game does show the limitations of the system as you never know what would happen after a decision. The system doesn’t allow for if any player should have been sent off. This would dramatically change any game but according to this site it makes no difference.
  It also doesn’t account for when a teams goal was scored as you can’t say how a team would play after that. OK so at 1-0 down a team should have got a penalty and it would have gone to 1-1 but then the team that were 1-0 up sat back and defended for the last ten minutes to protect their lead. If it had gone to 1-1 they might have gone on the attack, made more aggresive substitutions anything. In this case you can be pretty sure that the score at Man U filtered down to the Chelsea players by the end of the game and so their heads dipped and this led to the Bolton goal. Now if Wigan had been given the penalty, Scholes sent off and it was heading for 1-1 this probably wouldn’t have happened.
  The only thing this site rates on is if some goals should stand and penalty decisions. OK it would be impossible to say how the game would be played out after any decision going the other way but it does expose limitations in the system.

• 31. DAREEL (Team - Spurs)  |  May 19th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

  Are the people who craeted this site UTD fans? UTD where handed the title on a plate this season. Even the last game of teh season finished in contreversy. I was hoping that just for once we could have a fair referee that wasn’t biased to any team as there was so much depending on it. Rio ferdinand playing volleyball in the area against Wigan was obviously not enough for teh scum referee to give a penalty against UTD. This is from a Spurs fan

• 32. PrinceFabregas  |  May 22nd, 2008 at 7:25 am

  The only thing that is painful about the decision here is that we have to accept it as correct. It is very annoying and sad to see majority of the over 30 comments here lack a basic understanding of the system. The panel cannot give a decision based on a doubtful issue. The Rio handball claim is not clear cut. It could have been given, it could have not. Even MOTD said it wasn’t that obvious. The ball was moving too fast. Did Rio stick an arm out? Was it his shoulder or arm? These are all issues that football analysts of the game debated. The fact that they did that and failed to agree unanimously just goes to show how it was not so obvious - hence it cannot be given by the RR panel.

  So, if we follow the RR criteria, the 3-0 result stands. Of coz, the game would have changed if Scholes was off etc, but that is not taken into account. So, please question the criteria, not the result.

• 33. StopComplaining  |  May 22nd, 2008 at 7:29 am

  Hand Ball according to FIFA rules.

  It is a “direct kick foul” if a player (other than the goalkeeper inside his own penalty area) deliberately handles the ball (meaning to deliberately touch the ball with any part of the arm from the finger tips to the top of the shoulder). If the player handles it for the purpose of preventing an opponent from gaining possession, it is a “cautionable offense” and a yellow card should be given. If a player deliberately handles the ball to deny an obvious goal scoring opportunity (e.g., to prevent a breakaway or to deliberately stop a shot), a red card should be given and the player “sent off”. However, a hand ball foul should not be called if: (1) a player is instinctively trying to protect himself from injury or (2) the player did not deliberately touch the ball but the ball hit his arm & he did not move the arm toward the ball (however, if the player’s arms were in an unnatural position such as above his shoulders or sticking out to the sides, then he should be called for a handball). (See “Fouls”).

  There you go. That’s why Bennet din give it.

• 34. Sinbad (Team - Liverpool)  |  May 22nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm

  Having seen it on MOD, it clearly meets condition 2 in post 33. Ferdinand raised and stretched his arm to his left, the ball then his hit his upper left arm. And, PrinceFabregas, MOD might have said it wasn’t obvious, non the less they were firm it WAS a penalty. The fact no goal was awarded for this incident, yet one was awarded for the Scholes incident shows serious bias by the panel in applying their criteria.
  For this site to have any credibility, the criteria MUST be revised. Or, add another “league” table. For each game during the season, count the number of incorrect refereeing decisions, and which team benefitted. I know who’d top that table!

• 35. PrinceFabregas  |  May 23rd, 2008 at 8:47 pm

  Liverpool?

• 36. Huh?  |  May 24th, 2008 at 1:15 am

  If it meets condition 2, then its not a penalty.
  You probably meant it does not, in which case, have a look here http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/SH42ZKTHMK036R88. See how fast the ball is? And still, Ferdinand did not move his arm only, but rather his own body. His arm does not stick out for god’s sake!

  Skysports showed this on replay, and they said it is about 1 inch below shoulder. And that is not something that is “beyond doubt”.

  Get over it. If it was beyond doubt, the football panels will not bother arguing about it.

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